Why does this project only want to support Vbox 5.4.x?

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Message 1602 - Posted: 26 Dec 2021, 21:07:31 UTC

I find it very annoying to have to downgrade to 5.4.x
Why can't they support 6?
I'm still trying to find the right combo for projects.
I can't remember how the others that normally run on 6 work.
Been to busy.
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Message 1603 - Posted: 27 Dec 2021, 18:12:00 UTC - in response to Message 1602.  
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I am using VirtualBox.6.1.30 on this project, on Rosetta python and LHC@home without any problem.
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Message 1604 - Posted: 27 Dec 2021, 19:56:16 UTC - in response to Message 1603.  
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I am using VirtualBox.6.1.30 on this project, on Rosetta python and LHC@home without any problem.
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Well I was doing that and then I got Vboxwrapper lost communication with VirtualBox, rescheduling task for a later time.

So I backed up to 5.4.x and now I just the occasional memory error which I hope to have some new sticks in a few weeks.

And I noticed that if you "save" your data like you normally do when closing out BOINC then you get unmanageable.

All this nonsense is not to my liking.
You would think this project could do better to make it work like the other projects in the BOINC environment.
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Message 1605 - Posted: 27 Dec 2021, 23:29:52 UTC
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Screw it.
I am off this project for awhile.
It doesn't work with my current configuration.
Need more RAM
And that 6.x is not working properly, again until I get more RAM I can't tell what is going on.
So again, screw it until later.
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Message 1606 - Posted: 28 Dec 2021, 5:51:26 UTC
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I have 12 GB RAM on an Intel i5 CPU 9400F running Windows 11 home edition and I am running two tasks at a time.The same PC can run two rosetta python tasks at the same time which need much more RAM. VBox uses 6344 MB.
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Message 1607 - Posted: 28 Dec 2021, 18:36:42 UTC - in response to Message 1606.  

I have 12 GB RAM on an Intel i5 CPU 9400F running Windows 11 home edition and I am running two tasks at a time.The same PC can run two rosetta python tasks at the same time which need much more RAM. VBox uses 6344 MB.
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Yeah, but your not using your system like I do.
I have Einstein,LHC,Primegrid, Rosetta, SiDock and WCG + FAH
Right now without RAH I have enough memory, but the minute Python kicks in, then its down to 30% free and this project dies. And without screwing up RAH with project cpu limitations when it decides it wants to run 3-4 pythons at once then that's the end of the discussion.

I think I will be fine once I up the memory some more.
But then I have to figure out if I can run Vbox 6.x or not without some sort of error.
For now I opt out of this project.
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Message 1608 - Posted: 28 Dec 2021, 20:39:21 UTC - in response to Message 1607.  

I have Einstein on another PC, a recent laptop with an AMD CPU with graphic capabilities . Another, my fastest AMD PC, runs WCG but also a Linux Virtual Machine running both Einstein and QuChem on a SuSE Tumbleweed Linux, which is a Development version and has a 5.15.8 kernel. It is frequently updated and I have to reboot it. On the Intel PC from which I am writing I run QuChem, Rosetta@home and, alternating, LHC@home. Another older laptop runs QuChem on a SuSE Leap 15.0. I am trying to distribute my BOINC projects on 4 PCs plus one Virtual Machine.All this hardware costs me about 50 euros/month in electricity.
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Message 1609 - Posted: 28 Dec 2021, 23:09:47 UTC - in response to Message 1608.  

I have Einstein on another PC, a recent laptop with an AMD CPU with graphic capabilities . Another, my fastest AMD PC, runs WCG but also a Linux Virtual Machine running both Einstein and QuChem on a SuSE Tumbleweed Linux, which is a Development version and has a 5.15.8 kernel. It is frequently updated and I have to reboot it. On the Intel PC from which I am writing I run QuChem, Rosetta@home and, alternating, LHC@home. Another older laptop runs QuChem on a SuSE Leap 15.0. I am trying to distribute my BOINC projects on 4 PCs plus one Virtual Machine.All this hardware costs me about 50 euros/month in electricity.
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Well I don't have that kind of luxury. Electric bills are high enough in Belgium to run one computer 16 hrs a day. And I can't afford to build another system. This system alone with some repairs and upgrades set me back 500 or so Euro. That's over a few years. New RAM will cost me another 70 for 2 sticks. That's enough money spent for volunteering.

So like I said, until I get the new RAM and then try running again, i'm withdrawing from this project because I can't run it the way it wants to run. To many VM errors. Not stable, can't keep communication, etc. Doesn't matter if its 6 or 5.
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Message 1610 - Posted: 29 Dec 2021, 5:43:14 UTC
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Electricity prices are raising also in Italy. I am paying 0.088 euro/kWh plus some fixed costs including the decommissioning of the 4 spent Italian nuclear reactors. I have been informed that from March 1 I shall pay 0,093 euro/kWh plus a fixed monthly cost of 9 euro, this because I am a long time user. But new users pay much more as I see from advertisements. Electricity producers often offer Amazon bonuses to appeal to customers.
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Message 1730 - Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 18:19:40 UTC - in response to Message 1603.  

I am using VirtualBox.6.1.30 on this project, on Rosetta python and LHC@home without any problem.
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Didn't work on Kryptos, doesn't work on Cosmology. Looks like Oracle broke something when they designed 6.
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Message 1731 - Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 18:21:22 UTC - in response to Message 1610.  

Electricity prices are raising also in Italy. I am paying 0.088 euro/kWh plus some fixed costs including the decommissioning of the 4 spent Italian nuclear reactors. I have been informed that from March 1 I shall pay 0,093 euro/kWh plus a fixed monthly cost of 9 euro, this because I am a long time user. But new users pay much more as I see from advertisements. Electricity producers often offer Amazon bonuses to appeal to customers.
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How much?! In the UK it's 0.200 euro/kWh! Twice yours! With GPUs I've got a bill of 550 Euros a month.
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