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Message 240 - Posted: 2 Nov 2019, 19:35:43 UTC

I am sure there are a lot of these. No valids, only errors.
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Message 241 - Posted: 2 Nov 2019, 19:44:22 UTC - in response to Message 240.  

I am sure there are a lot of these. No valids, only errors.
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Misconfigured or not capable?
NOTE: VirtualBox has reported an improperly configured virtual machine. It was configured to require
hardware acceleration for virtual machines, but your processor does not support the required feature.
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Message 242 - Posted: 2 Nov 2019, 21:05:46 UTC - in response to Message 241.  

Misconfigured or not capable?

It doesn't matter to me. He is not watching his machine.

But he has an i7-3770K, which definitely supports virtualization.
Virtualization Virtualbox (5.1.20) installed, CPU has hardware virtualization support but it is disabled

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Message 244 - Posted: 3 Nov 2019, 8:02:11 UTC - in response to Message 242.  

It doesn't matter to me. He is not watching his machine.

Yes, probably unattended machine..
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Message 259 - Posted: 8 Nov 2019, 0:06:41 UTC
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I got these today trying a WIN10 machine. https://quchempedia.univ-angers.fr/athome/result.php?resultid=75833

My system info says:

Hyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Virtualization Enabled in Firmware Yes
Hyper-V - Data Execution Protection Yes


NOTE: VirtualBox has reported an improperly configured virtual machine. It was configured to require
hardware acceleration for virtual machines, but your processor does not support the required feature.
Please report this issue to the project so that it can be addresssed.
Error Code: ERR_CPU_VM_EXTENSIONS_DISABLED
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Message 260 - Posted: 8 Nov 2019, 13:39:52 UTC - in response to Message 259.  

On one of the forums (don't remember which one before more coffee), they say that you have to disable Hyper-V in order for VirtualBox to run properly.
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Message 261 - Posted: 8 Nov 2019, 14:31:46 UTC - in response to Message 259.  

I got these today trying a WIN10 machine. https://quchempedia.univ-angers.fr/athome/result.php?resultid=75833

My system info says:

Hyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Virtualization Enabled in Firmware Yes
Hyper-V - Data Execution Protection Yes


NOTE: VirtualBox has reported an improperly configured virtual machine. It was configured to require
hardware acceleration for virtual machines, but your processor does not support the required feature.
Please report this issue to the project so that it can be addresssed.
Error Code: ERR_CPU_VM_EXTENSIONS_DISABLED

Dingo
Have you checked/done this?
https://quchempedia.univ-angers.fr/athome/forum_thread.php?id=20

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Message 262 - Posted: 9 Nov 2019, 2:59:12 UTC - in response to Message 261.  


Dingo
Have you checked/done this?
https://quchempedia.univ-angers.fr/athome/forum_thread.php?id=20


I tried that but no good on Windows 10 so will give it a miss for now. It works on Linux OK but no VB and the tasks run forever.
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Message 263 - Posted: 9 Nov 2019, 9:29:30 UTC - in response to Message 262.  
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I tried that but no good on Windows 10 so will give it a miss for now. It works on Linux OK but no VB and the tasks run forever.

They only estimate forever on Linux. Your machines are about like mine; they will average about 6 to 8 hours.
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Message 271 - Posted: 11 Nov 2019, 12:57:45 UTC - in response to Message 263.  

I tried that but no good on Windows 10 so will give it a miss for now. It works on Linux OK but no VB and the tasks run forever.

They only estimate forever on Linux. Your machines are about like mine; they will average about 6 to 8 hours.



I have some running on Linux and the estimate to finish is 31 Days and after about 4 hours one has done 0.508% yet the deadline is the 25 November. I will let them run for a day but if they are not finished I will abort them. I have looked at other users with Linux and they have taken up to 30 days per task so your 6 to 8 hours seems optimistic. These are the tasks from the TOP user on this project.
https://quchempedia.univ-angers.fr/athome/results.php?hostid=464


This is from my BoincTasks of my Linux machines work,


QuChemPedIA@home 0.11 NWChem (t1) dsgdb9nsd_nwchem,bath03,012211939,nwchem,1572558557_0 0.509 03:51:11 (01:48:16) 31d,08:50:25 46.8 25-Nov-19 8:00:26 PM Running High P. bundy-3
QuChemPedIA@home 0.11 NWChem (t1) dsgdb9nsd_nwchem,bath03,012697738,nwchem,1572558565_0 0.403 03:02:54 (02:00:32) 31d,09:14:32 65.91 25-Nov-19 8:48:43 PM Running High P. bundy-3
QuChemPedIA@home 0.11 NWChem (t1) dsgdb9nsd_nwchem,bath03,012531594,nwchem,1572558553_0 0.146 01:06:05 (00:33:29) 31d,10:12:53 50.68 25-Nov-19 10:45:31 PM Running High P. bundy-3
QuChemPedIA@home 0.11 NWChem (t1) dsgdb9nsd_nwchem,bath03,012590213,nwchem,1572558561_0 0.060 00:27:11 (00:27:03) 31d,10:32:20 99.51 25-Nov-19 11:24:25 PM Running High P. bundy-3
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Message 272 - Posted: 11 Nov 2019, 13:42:39 UTC - in response to Message 271.  
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I have looked at other users with Linux and they have taken up to 30 days per task so your 6 to 8 hours seems optimistic.

Here are the results for my i7-8700:
https://quchempedia.univ-angers.fr/athome/results.php?hostid=560

However, it was limited (with an app_config.xml) to running only two NWChem at a time, as I have posted here:
https://quchempedia.univ-angers.fr/athome/forum_thread.php?id=23&postid=195#195

I have since increased that to four at a time, and will see how it goes. The initial indication is that it increases the times to 18 to 25 hours each, with four running now.

And my Ryen 3700x, with six running, is now estimating almost 5 days, though that is still early. But it is clear that things rapidly go downhill as you add more work units, you just need to find the right number for your machine.
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Message 274 - Posted: 11 Nov 2019, 18:18:51 UTC - in response to Message 272.  
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Another thing to note is that the time estimates for the work units are very inaccurate, and unpredictable in their inaccuracy.
For my Ryzen 3700x, the work units (running four at a time) are actually completing in about 4 to 8 hours, not 5 days as estimated.
I will try increasing that to six running, and see if it holds. The large (32 MB) L3 cache on the 3700x is probably to be credited.

On the other hand, the i7-8700 is still completing them in about 16 to 20 hours when running four at a time. It doesn't have such a large cache, so I will limit it to two.
YMMV, depending on what other projects you are running also of course.

(I am also running CPDN on those machines, usually four work units at a time, and they also have significant cache requirements.)
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Message 275 - Posted: 11 Nov 2019, 20:23:35 UTC - in response to Message 274.  
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Another thing to note is that the time estimates for the work units are very inaccurate, and unpredictable in their inaccuracy.

I eliminated that frustration by simply not showing the progress and estimated time remaining columns in Boinc manager.
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Message 276 - Posted: 11 Nov 2019, 22:01:43 UTC - in response to Message 275.  

I eliminated that frustration by simply not showing the progress and estimated time remaining columns in Boinc manager.

We need creative solutions like that.
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Message 284 - Posted: 13 Nov 2019, 19:14:25 UTC - in response to Message 275.  

I eliminated that frustration by simply not showing the progress and estimated time remaining columns in Boinc manager.


I totally approve this method :D

I use a small variation : I dont check the computers
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