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Send message Joined: 3 Oct 19 Posts: 153 Credit: 32,412,973 RAC: 0 |
I am sure there are a lot of these. No valids, only errors. https://quchempedia.univ-angers.fr/athome/results.php?hostid=112 |
Send message Joined: 13 Sep 19 Posts: 69 Credit: 399,347 RAC: 0 |
I am sure there are a lot of these. No valids, only errors. Misconfigured or not capable? NOTE: VirtualBox has reported an improperly configured virtual machine. It was configured to require |
Send message Joined: 3 Oct 19 Posts: 153 Credit: 32,412,973 RAC: 0 |
Misconfigured or not capable? It doesn't matter to me. He is not watching his machine. But he has an i7-3770K, which definitely supports virtualization. Virtualization Virtualbox (5.1.20) installed, CPU has hardware virtualization support but it is disabled https://quchempedia.univ-angers.fr/athome/show_host_detail.php?hostid=112 |
Send message Joined: 13 Sep 19 Posts: 69 Credit: 399,347 RAC: 0 |
It doesn't matter to me. He is not watching his machine. Yes, probably unattended machine.. |
Send message Joined: 4 Oct 19 Posts: 7 Credit: 1,721,226 RAC: 0 |
I got these today trying a WIN10 machine. https://quchempedia.univ-angers.fr/athome/result.php?resultid=75833 My system info says: Hyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions Yes Hyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions Yes Hyper-V - Virtualization Enabled in Firmware Yes Hyper-V - Data Execution Protection Yes NOTE: VirtualBox has reported an improperly configured virtual machine. It was configured to require hardware acceleration for virtual machines, but your processor does not support the required feature. Please report this issue to the project so that it can be addresssed. Error Code: ERR_CPU_VM_EXTENSIONS_DISABLED |
Send message Joined: 3 Oct 19 Posts: 153 Credit: 32,412,973 RAC: 0 |
On one of the forums (don't remember which one before more coffee), they say that you have to disable Hyper-V in order for VirtualBox to run properly. |
Send message Joined: 7 Oct 19 Posts: 10 Credit: 650,307 RAC: 0 |
I got these today trying a WIN10 machine. https://quchempedia.univ-angers.fr/athome/result.php?resultid=75833 Dingo Have you checked/done this? https://quchempedia.univ-angers.fr/athome/forum_thread.php?id=20 |
Send message Joined: 4 Oct 19 Posts: 7 Credit: 1,721,226 RAC: 0 |
I tried that but no good on Windows 10 so will give it a miss for now. It works on Linux OK but no VB and the tasks run forever. |
Send message Joined: 3 Oct 19 Posts: 153 Credit: 32,412,973 RAC: 0 |
I tried that but no good on Windows 10 so will give it a miss for now. It works on Linux OK but no VB and the tasks run forever. They only estimate forever on Linux. Your machines are about like mine; they will average about 6 to 8 hours. |
Send message Joined: 4 Oct 19 Posts: 7 Credit: 1,721,226 RAC: 0 |
I tried that but no good on Windows 10 so will give it a miss for now. It works on Linux OK but no VB and the tasks run forever. I have some running on Linux and the estimate to finish is 31 Days and after about 4 hours one has done 0.508% yet the deadline is the 25 November. I will let them run for a day but if they are not finished I will abort them. I have looked at other users with Linux and they have taken up to 30 days per task so your 6 to 8 hours seems optimistic. These are the tasks from the TOP user on this project. https://quchempedia.univ-angers.fr/athome/results.php?hostid=464 This is from my BoincTasks of my Linux machines work, QuChemPedIA@home 0.11 NWChem (t1) dsgdb9nsd_nwchem,bath03,012211939,nwchem,1572558557_0 0.509 03:51:11 (01:48:16) 31d,08:50:25 46.8 25-Nov-19 8:00:26 PM Running High P. bundy-3 QuChemPedIA@home 0.11 NWChem (t1) dsgdb9nsd_nwchem,bath03,012697738,nwchem,1572558565_0 0.403 03:02:54 (02:00:32) 31d,09:14:32 65.91 25-Nov-19 8:48:43 PM Running High P. bundy-3 QuChemPedIA@home 0.11 NWChem (t1) dsgdb9nsd_nwchem,bath03,012531594,nwchem,1572558553_0 0.146 01:06:05 (00:33:29) 31d,10:12:53 50.68 25-Nov-19 10:45:31 PM Running High P. bundy-3 QuChemPedIA@home 0.11 NWChem (t1) dsgdb9nsd_nwchem,bath03,012590213,nwchem,1572558561_0 0.060 00:27:11 (00:27:03) 31d,10:32:20 99.51 25-Nov-19 11:24:25 PM Running High P. bundy-3 [/url] |
Send message Joined: 3 Oct 19 Posts: 153 Credit: 32,412,973 RAC: 0 |
I have looked at other users with Linux and they have taken up to 30 days per task so your 6 to 8 hours seems optimistic. Here are the results for my i7-8700: https://quchempedia.univ-angers.fr/athome/results.php?hostid=560 However, it was limited (with an app_config.xml) to running only two NWChem at a time, as I have posted here: https://quchempedia.univ-angers.fr/athome/forum_thread.php?id=23&postid=195#195 I have since increased that to four at a time, and will see how it goes. The initial indication is that it increases the times to 18 to 25 hours each, with four running now. And my Ryen 3700x, with six running, is now estimating almost 5 days, though that is still early. But it is clear that things rapidly go downhill as you add more work units, you just need to find the right number for your machine. |
Send message Joined: 3 Oct 19 Posts: 153 Credit: 32,412,973 RAC: 0 |
Another thing to note is that the time estimates for the work units are very inaccurate, and unpredictable in their inaccuracy. For my Ryzen 3700x, the work units (running four at a time) are actually completing in about 4 to 8 hours, not 5 days as estimated. I will try increasing that to six running, and see if it holds. The large (32 MB) L3 cache on the 3700x is probably to be credited. On the other hand, the i7-8700 is still completing them in about 16 to 20 hours when running four at a time. It doesn't have such a large cache, so I will limit it to two. YMMV, depending on what other projects you are running also of course. (I am also running CPDN on those machines, usually four work units at a time, and they also have significant cache requirements.) |
Send message Joined: 13 Oct 19 Posts: 87 Credit: 6,026,455 RAC: 0 |
Another thing to note is that the time estimates for the work units are very inaccurate, and unpredictable in their inaccuracy. I eliminated that frustration by simply not showing the progress and estimated time remaining columns in Boinc manager. |
Send message Joined: 3 Oct 19 Posts: 153 Credit: 32,412,973 RAC: 0 |
I eliminated that frustration by simply not showing the progress and estimated time remaining columns in Boinc manager. We need creative solutions like that. |
Send message Joined: 23 Jul 19 Posts: 289 Credit: 464,119,561 RAC: 0 |
I eliminated that frustration by simply not showing the progress and estimated time remaining columns in Boinc manager. I totally approve this method :D I use a small variation : I dont check the computers |
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